Filed by Public Storage, Inc.
                                  Pursuant to Rule 165 and Rule 425(a) under the
                                United States Securities Act of 1933, as amended

                                 Subject Company: Shurgard Storage Centers, Inc.
                                                   Commission File No. 001-11455
                                                            Date: August 1, 2005
                                 



The following is a transcript of a conference call which is accessible on Public
Storage's website.



                          PUBLIC STORAGE, INCORPORATED

                              MODERATOR: CLEM TENG
                                 AUGUST 1, 2005
                                   9:00 AM PST






Operator:             Good morning. My name is Kelly and I will be your
                      conference facilitator today. At this time, I would like
                      to welcome everyone to the Public Storage Second Quarter
                      Earnings call. All lines have been placed on mute to
                      prevent any background noise.

                      After the speakers' remarks, there will be a question and
                      answer period. If you would like to ask a question during
                      this time, simply press star, then the number 1 on your
                      telephone keypad. If you would like to withdraw your
                      question, press star, then the number 2 on your telephone
                      keypad.

                      Thank you.  Mr. Teng, you may begin your conference.



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Clem Teng:            Good morning.  I'm Clem Teng, Vice President of Investor 
                      Services for Public Storage. Joining me this morning are 
                      Ron Havner, CEO; John Reyes, CFO; John Graul, President of
                      Self-Storage Operations; David Doll, President of Real 
                      Estate Operations; and Jack Baumann, our Chief Legal 
                      Officer.

                      As you are aware, on Friday night, we released our second
                      quarter earnings and this morning we announced that we had
                      made a proposal to merge with Shurgard. Our agenda for the
                      call this morning will be to first review our second
                      quarter earnings and then Ron will discuss the proposal to
                      Shurgard.

                      Before we begin with the formal remarks, I would like to
                      provide the forward-looking statement warning. This
                      conference call will contain forward-looking statements
                      within the meaning of Section 27-A of the Securities Act
                      of 1933 and Section 21-E of the Securities Exchange Act of
                      1934. These forward-looking statements are subject to a
                      number of risks and uncertainties, many of which are
                      beyond Public Storage's control that could cause actual
                      results to differ materially from those set forth in or
                      implied by such forward-looking statements.

                      All statements other than statements of historical facts
                      included in this conference call are forward-looking
                      statements. All forward-looking statements speak only as
                      of the date of this conference call. Public Storage
                      undertakes no obligation to update or revise any
                      forward-looking statements whether as a result of new
                      information, future events, or otherwise. There can be no
                      guarantee that any transaction between Public Storage and
                      Shurgard will occur.

                      In addition to the risks and uncertainties of ordinary
                      business operations, the forward-looking statements of
                      Public Storage made on this conference call are also
                      subject to the following risks and uncertainties: Public
                      Storage's ability 



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                      to successfully integrate the operations of Shurgard and
                      assumptions with respect to the benefits to be realized
                      from a potential transaction with Shurgard, future
                      revenues of Shurgard and Public Storage, the expected
                      performance of Shurgard and Public Storage, and the
                      expected cash flows of Shurgard and Public Storage.

                      For additional information about risks and uncertainties
                      that could adversely affect Public Storage's
                      forward-looking statements, please refer to Public
                      Storage's Annual Report on Form 10-K for the fiscal year
                      ended December 31, 2004.

                      We will also provide certain non-GAAP financial measures.
                      A reconciliation to GAAP of these non-GAAP financial
                      measures is included in our press release which can be
                      found at our Website at www.publicstorage.com. A slide
                      presentation on our proposal to Shurgard can also be found
                      at our Website.

                      As a reminder, our press release and an audio Webcast
                      replay of this conference call are available at our
                      Website and complete financial information will be
                      available in our 10-Q, which will be filed shortly with
                      the Securities and Exchange Commission.

                      With that, I will now turn the call over to John Reyes.

John Reyes:           Thank you, Clem, and good day to everyone. As reported in
                      Friday's press release, Public Storage achieved solid
                      second quarter operating results. Net income for the
                      quarter rose to 47 cents per share compared to 37 cents
                      per share for the same period of 2004, representing an
                      increase of 27% or 10 cents per share.
              
                      

                                       


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                      Funds from operations increased to 90 cents per share
                      compared to 77 cents per share in the same quarter last
                      year, representing an increase of 17% or 13 cents per
                      share. The 13-cent per share increase primarily resulted
                      from improved same-store operations which contributed 7
                      cents, development and acquisition activities that added 3
                      cents, our ancillary operations added 2 cents, and the
                      benefit from refinancing higher rate preferred securities
                      with lower rate preferred securities which added 1 cent
                      per share.

                      Virtually all the key operating metrics for same stores
                      improved on a year-over-year comparison. Revenues grew by
                      4.7% driven primarily by our pricing and media activities.
                      These activities enabled us to increase effective rents by
                      3.8% and average occupancy by 70 basis points for the
                      quarter.

                      The growth in our operating expense moderated to only a 1%
                      increase for the quarter. Our management team has worked
                      hard to control these expenses and John Graul will speak
                      in detail on this positive trend in a few minutes.

                      Net operating income increased a solid, 6.7%, as our gross
                      margins improved to 66.8% for the quarter compared to
                      65.6% in the same quarter of 2004.

                      Overall, this performance continues the positive operating
                      trends that we've been experiencing over the past several
                      quarters. Going into the third quarter, our same-store
                      facilities are well positioned for further growth.
                      Occupancy levels are approximately 1% higher and in-place
                      rents are approximately 3.3% higher at the end of June
                      2005 as compared to June 2004.

                      With respect to the balance of our self-storage assets,
                      which consists primarily of our development and
                      acquisition properties, revenues for the quarter increased
                      $32 million - increased to $32 million compared to $19

                                     


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                      million from the second quarter of 2004. Net operating
                      income for the quarter rose to $19 million as compared to
                      $11 million for the same period last year, much of this
                      growth coming from our 2004 and 2005 acquisitions.

                      We expect that both our development and acquisition
                      facilities will continue to provide growth in the quarters
                      to come as these properties continue to reach stabilized
                      occupancy levels as well as stabilized market rental
                      rates. For the quarter, these facilities in aggregate
                      provided an annualized yield of approximately 6.1% on a
                      cost base of approximately $858 million.

                      From a balance sheet perspective, we continue to maintain
                      our strong financial position. Our cash balance at June
                      30th totaled approximately $390 million. This balance was
                      partially built up by our capital raising activities as
                      well as retained operating cash flow.

                      For the first six months of this year, total distributions
                      paid to our common shareholders is approximately $54.3
                      million - excuse me - 54.3% of funds available for
                      distribution, down from 66.9% for the same period last
                      year. As a result, retained operating cash flow increased
                      significantly to $97.5 million for the first six months of
                      this year compared to $56.9 million for the same period
                      last year. This is after the payment of dividends and
                      capital expenditures.

                      Our fixed charge coverage ratio continues to improve. For
                      the first six months of 2005, the ratio was a solid 3.4
                      times, giving us the capacity to raise significantly more
                      preferred stock that's needed to fund our investing
                      activities.

                      Our next opportunity to call another series of preferreds
                      will be in December and will be redeemable in January of
                      2006. This preferred series, or 8.6% Series Q, has a
                      redemption value of $173 million. If called - it is
                      expected 
                                      


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                      that we will fund the redemption with existing cash on
                      hand. In addition, the EITF Topic D-42 charge will be
                      approximately $5.6 million and will be recorded during the
                      fourth quarter of 2005.

                      In the second half of 2006, we have approximately $650
                      million of preferred stock that we can redeem, which has a
                      weighted average rate of 8%. We are continuing to monitor
                      the capital markets for opportunities to prefund these
                      redemptions which may create some short-term earning
                      dilutions for long-term improvement in earnings power.

                      Lastly, as we disclosed last quarter, in November of this
                      year, our partner in our development joint venture that
                      was formed in 1999, may exercise its option to exit the
                      partnership. If exercised we intend to acquire our
                      partner's interest, which is estimated at $105 million. We
                      are currently in negotiations with them to acquire this
                      interest.

                      With that, let me turn it over to John Graul.

John Graul:           Thanks, John. Let me go back to an area that John Reyes
                      highlighted earlier with respect to operating expenses.
                      Our team has been focusing on operational excellence and
                      we are beginning to realize the impact of these efforts in
                      our overall expense controls. I will address briefly a few
                      of the initiatives we established last year and how we are
                      beginning to benefit from them.

                      The first initiative involved the managing of our largest
                      controllable expense item, payroll costs. Our first task
                      was to understand the time and effort needed to
                      efficiently operate the properties. We accomplished this
                      by developing a transaction-based staffing model, which is
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                      The result for the second quarter was a 1% reduction in
                      labor hours or almost 10,000 hours compared to the same
                      period last year. For the six months, the reduction in
                      same-store labor hours was almost 1.7% or 45,000 hours
                      from the same period a year ago. We expect this downward
                      trend in hours to partially offset the increase in wage
                      rates.

                      Also, during the second quarter we completed two other
                      initiatives that we believe will have a long-term positive
                      impact on our operations. First, we have completed asset
                      plans on all of our properties, which will enable us to
                      better plan and effectively manage our future cap ex and
                      R&M expenditures. Our objective is to improve the overall
                      maintenance standards of the property and to effectively
                      manage costs.

                      Secondly, we completed an upgrade to our WebChamp
                      operating system and has greatly increased capacity. With
                      this upgrade, we can significantly increase the number of
                      properties in our system.

                      Overall, we are encouraged by our operating results. The
                      various initiatives, which are intended to create
                      standardization and operating efficiency, are beginning to
                      show in our bottom line results.

                      Next, with respect to our media program, you've heard Ron
                      comment during the last couple of quarters that we were
                      disappointed with move-in activity, which was declining
                      while media spending was increasing. This resulted in
                      customer acquisition costs moving above $150, up from $130
                      in 2003. Part of this was attributable to our efforts to
                      improve the weighted average value of new customers
                      through our media program.

                      Starting in April of this year, we shifted back to our
                      more traditional media mix and modified our promotional
                      and pricing programs to drive customer value. Results this
                      quarter are encouraging as move-in volume and our
                      same-store properties modestly exceeded the prior period,
                      the first such improvement in over a year. In addition,
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                      Combined, this resulted in positive absorption of 18,700
                      customers in the same-store pool for the second quarter as
                      compared to 11,300 last year. We are still experimenting
                      and refining our media program, our customer research, and
                      leveraging our WebChamp database.

                      With respect to our same-store properties, going into the
                      second half of the year, occupancy is 100 basis points
                      higher than last June with higher in-place rents. If
                      you'll recall, last year we did not use media in August
                      due to the Olympics or in November due to the election.

                      We expect to be on TV with our traditional programs each
                      month for the balance of the year, although the markets
                      and frequency will vary. Media costs will continue to be
                      the most volatile expense component, which we expect to be
                      higher than last year.

                      Finally, here is an overview of what we are seeing in our
                      largest markets. For the ten states with the greatest
                      concentration of public storage same-store facilities, the
                      average occupancy for the second quarter was 92.1% with a
                      range of 93.4% at the high and 90.6% at the low end. This
                      compares to a 91.4% average last year with a range of
                      94.8% to 90.5%. The softest state in terms of occupancy
                      continues to be properties located in Texas.

                      Now let me turn it over to David Doll.



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David Doll:           Thank you, John. Let me start by covering our acquisition
                      activity. During the quarter, we acquired eight properties
                      in several markets including Atlanta, Chicago, and New
                      Jersey. These acquisitions had an accurate cost of $85.7
                      million, adding 570,000 net rentable square feet for the
                      portfolio. Initial from occupancies of the properties
                      acquired this quarter ranged 66% to 80%. Average costs
                      were generally at or within 20% of replacement costs.

                      Through June 30, we completed the acquisition of 14
                      properties at an acquisition cost of $82 million and have
                      added 937,000 net rentable square feet for the portfolio.

                      Subsequent to June 30, we consummated the purchase of
                      three additional acquisitions in the Atlanta market. These
                      properties added 235,000 net rentable square feet of space
                      at a total cost of $18.2 million.

                      As of July 28, our acquisition pipeline includes 11
                      properties located in Atlanta, Charlotte, Florida, and New
                      York. Acquisition of all of these properties would add
                      886,000 net rentable square feet to our portfolio at a
                      total cost of approximately $120 million.

                      As a result of our Acquisition Team's efforts, for the
                      year, we have acquired or have under contract 28
                      properties, which would add two million net rentable
                      square feet to the portfolio at an aggregate cost of $220
                      million. Our acquisition properties continue to perform at
                      or above our expectations.

                      Competition for good properties remains challenging,
                      however, we have been fortunate to source a number of off
                      market transactions and we are working hard to maintain
                      our current pace of acquisitions.


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                      Now moving on to our development activities, during the
                      second quarter, we completed four projects with 214,000
                      net rentable square feet at an aggregate cost of $14
                      million. The projects include the expansion of one
                      existing facility, the conversion of two former pickup and
                      delivery facilities, and the completion of a ground-up
                      development.

                      At June 30 our development pipeline, which also includes
                      our expansions and repackaging properties, totaled $238
                      million consisting of 48 projects. These projects will be
                      fully funded by us over the next approximately 24 months
                      and will add $3.2 million net rentable square feet to the
                      Public Storage system.

                      With that, I will now turn the call over to Ron.

Ron Havner:           Thank you David. Let me summarize for you where we see
                      Public Storage today. We are generating good rates of
                      return and growth on invested capital. Our unique,
                      scaleable platform is allowing us to drive efficiency into
                      both our operating and corporate cost structures, leading
                      to improved operating margins.

                      Our stable cash flows and relatively low leverage is
                      enabling us to continue to drive down our cost to capital,
                      generate significant free cash flow, and maintain
                      financial flexibility. Our brand name, media, and
                      promotional programs are helping us to produce industry
                      leading occupancies and growth in revenue per available
                      square foot.

                      It is also helping us to accelerate the fill-up of our
                      development and acquisition properties. Our customers are
                      benefiting from improved property staffing, strength of
                      our operating management, and continued investment in our
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                      Our continued focus on the three Ps: people, product, and
                      pricing, combined with our operating and financial
                      strategies are producing results for our shareholders,
                      customers and employees.

                      We are well positioned to capitalize on the opportunities
                      that come before us which leads me to our proposal to
                      merge with Shurgard.

                      This morning we announced that we had made a proposal to
                      Shurgard Storage Centers to merge our two companies.
                      Harvey Lenkin and I had met with Chuck Barbo and Dave
                      Grant in early July to discuss our proposal and review the
                      significant shareholder value creating benefits of a
                      merger. Since then we have also sent direct correspondence
                      to each of Shurgard's directors outlining our proposal,
                      describing how a merger would create significant
                      shareholder value, and offering to discuss or meet with
                      them.

                      Shurgard has refused to enter into discussions for a
                      combination of the two companies, telling us that quote,
                      "The company is not for sale."

                      Because of the significant opportunity to create
                      shareholder value for both Shurgard and Public Storage's
                      shareholders, we thought it appropriate to communicate our
                      proposal to you. Accordingly, today we filed an 8-K with
                      our proposal as outlined in the letter to Chuck Barbo and
                      Dave Grant on July 8, 2005, and Shurgard's July 26
                      response.

                      Our proposal is as follows: each share of Shurgard's
                      common stock will be exchanged for .80 shares of Public
                      Storage's common stock. This represents an implied value
                      of $53.40 per share of Shurgard's common stock, a 14%
                      premium based on Friday's closing stock prices.



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                      Based on first call estimates of FFO per share for Public
                      Storage and Shurgard, we believe this transaction to be
                      significantly accretive to Shurgard's shareholders. First,
                      on a pro-forma basis, Shurgard's shareholders can get an
                      additional 50 cents of FFO per share in 2005, and 25 cents
                      of FFO per share in 2006. These represent 24% and 10%
                      increases respectively above Shurgard's current first call
                      estimates.

                      Second, they would share in the realized synergy, both
                      revenue growth and expense reduction, in proportion to
                      their ownership percentage in the combined enterprise.
                      Once $20 million of synergies are achieved, the
                      transaction will become accretive to Public Storage's
                      shareholders and Shurgard's shareholders will benefit by
                      another ten cents per share.

                      The combination of our two companies will result in an
                      organization with these attributes. The total enterprise
                      value of approximately $15 billion with annual revenues in
                      excess of $1.5 billion. We would have ownership interest
                      in over 2,000 self-storage facilities containing
                      approximately 128 million net rentable square feet in 38
                      states and seven European nations.

                      There would be enhanced opportunities for revenue gains
                      from Public Storage's national marketing programs and
                      tenant insurance programs. The company would have
                      significant opportunities to reduce duplicate expenses
                      such as general and administrative costs, yellow pages,
                      insurance, MIS, and phone centers.

                      We would have the most experienced management team in the
                      self-storage industry, combining the strength and best
                      practices of both Public Storage and Shurgard.



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                      We would maintain a strong, flexible balance sheet which
                      would enable the company to easily raise low cost capital
                      for continued expansion in the United State and worldwide.

                      This should also provide for enhanced credit ratings for
                      Shurgard's creditors. We would have an ability to
                      capitalize on Public Storage's name in the US and
                      Shurgard's franchise in Europe.

                      Common shareholders of the combined entity should have
                      increased liquidity, and there would be significant
                      retained cash flow from operations to further finance
                      growth, due in part to making the transaction taxable. The
                      common dividend would be paid from cash flow, not
                      borrowings, and poised for growth.

                      At Public Storage we believe we are uniquely positioned to
                      extract maximum value from a combination of Public Storage
                      and Shurgard for the following reasons: Public Storage has
                      a long track record of creating shareholder value. Our
                      stock has consistently outperformed our peers and the
                      NAREIT and Morgan Stanley indices.

                      We have the financial strength to absorb Shurgard,
                      maintain our strong and flexible financial profile, and
                      easily access capital for continued growth. We have sound
                      financial systems which are Sarbanes Oxley compliant and
                      are scaleable to allow for quick integration.

                      Our present IT infrastructure is scaleable to multiples of
                      our current platform. Size and scope of our existing
                      operations would allow for substantial reduction in
                      general and administrative costs. Public Storage and
                      Shurgard operate in a number of the same markets such as
                      Chicago, Los Angeles, 



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                      Dallas, and Seattle, which would facilitate a reduction in
                      duplicate operating costs.

                      Our media programs can be utilized in these same markets
                      with no incremental costs. For example, we would spend the
                      same dollars for TV in Seattle regardless of whether we
                      own 40 or 80 properties.

                      There are redundancies in the combined company's back
                      office support structure such as MIS, phone centers, and
                      accounting, which can be eliminated. At Public Storage we
                      believe that there are compelling reasons, both financial
                      and strategic, to combine Public Storage and Shurgard.

                      The merger will create an exciting global enterprise with
                      critical mass and leveragable strength that can achieve
                      superior revenue growth, lower operating costs, lower
                      capital costs, and improved operational efficiency.

                      In short, we're capable of delivering superior returns to
                      owners, more career opportunities for employees, and an
                      expanded platform combining best practices for our
                      customers.

                      We are hopeful Shurgard's shareholders will see the
                      benefits of this transaction and communicate their views
                      to the Board of Directors and senior management of their
                      company.

                      With that operator, let's open it up for questions.

Operator:             At this time I would like to remind everyone if you would
                      like to ask a question please press star then the number 1
                      on your telephone keypad. We request that you limit
                      yourself to one question. For follow-up or additional
                      questions please re-enter queue by pressing star 1 again.



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                      Thank you. We'll pause for just a moment to compile the
                      Q&A roster.

                      Your first question comes from Eric Rothman with Wachovia
                      Securities.

Eric Rothman:         Good morning. I guess my first question would have to do
                      with how much have you spent thus far pursuing this? And
                      how much do you expect to spend and do you think it will
                      be a material expense?

Ron Havner:           Well we haven't spent a significant amount to pursue it so
                      far. As indicated, we've been to Seattle and obviously
                      we've hired some advisors to assist us. In terms of the
                      course or cost going forward that will really depend on
                      the direction and actions of the Shurgard management team,
                      Board of Directors.

Eric Rothman:         Thank you very much.

Operator:             Your next question comes from Greg White with Morgan 
                      Stanley.

Greg                  White: Good morning guys. Ron can you give us a little
                      more color - when you met with Shurgard, was it sort of a
                      blatant, you know, hand in the face no interest? Or was
                      there discussions about at a price they would be more open
                      minded?

Ron Havner:           Well Greg I think there's two letters attached to the 8-K.

Greg White:           Yeah and I read those.

Ron Havner:           Okay well the letter that we sent from the meeting
                      that Harvey and I had basically outlines the discussions
                      that we thought we had with the Shurgard management team.
                      And there were really no subsequent discussions since that
                      time other than Shurgard's letter back to us which is
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Operator:             Your next question comes from Michael Knott with Green 
                      Advisors.

Michael Knott:        Hey good morning. Just curious why you don't go tender and
                      what hurdles you might see if you do pursue that?

Ron Havner:           Well Michael I think we're fairly well aware of our
                      options. Our real desire is to sit down with the senior
                      management team of Shurgard and have positive,
                      constructive discussions and negotiations to try to put
                      these two companies together. And realize the benefits of
                      this merger for both sets of shareholders.

Operator:             Your next question comes from Dan Sullivan with Wachovia 
                      Securities.

Dan Sullivan:         Good morning guys. A quick question - if you are 
                      successful in merging with Shurgard, do you expect that
                      you're going to change your capital plan going forward?
                      And specifically issuing debt, or are you going to still
                      remain with issuing perpetual preferred securities as your
                      primary way of raising capital?

Ron Havner:           You know, Dan, at this juncture we remain flexible.
                      Shurgard has a fair amount of short term debt that needs
                      to be refinanced. And historically Public Storage has used
                      perpetual preferred stock to leverage its capital
                      structure as well as retain cash flow.         

Dan Sullivan:         So then no definitive plans at this time? You're still 
                      kind of mulling it over?

Ron Havner:           We want to remain very flexible.

Dan Sullivan:         Okay, thanks.

Operator:             Your next question comes from Michael Mueller with JP 
                      Morgan. 



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Michael Mueller:      Yeah hi. Ron what's your impression as to why their 
                      occupancy is so much lower than yours?

Ron Havner:           Well Mike I really wouldn't want to speculate on that. I
                      know what we're doing to drive our occupancy and it's the
                      combination of our media programs, promotional programs,
                      as well as executing out at the field level. That's what
                      we're doing. We're pricing better than we have before, our
                      media programs continue to get better, and you're seeing
                      that in the operating results.                            

Michael Mueller:      Okay, okay. Thanks.

Operator:             Your next question comes from Eric Rothman with Wachovia 
                      Securities.

Eric Rothman:         Yes, just wanted to be clear - do you own any shares of 
                      Shurgard today? And have you requested a waiver or..?   

Ron Havner:           Yeah I really don't want to talk about that.

Eric Rothman:         All right. Thank you.

Operator:             Your next question comes from Greg White with Morgan 
                      Stanley.

Greg White:           I guess it takes a shorter time to queue up here. Harvey
                      can you Ron can you talk about the reason why it's so
                      important that it's a taxable event for you guys in the
                      stepped up basis?

Ron Havner:           Yeah Greg. One of the things in a, you know, it's limited
                      in terms of the amount of cash flow that it can retain...



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Greg White:           Right.

Ron Havner:           Essentially by depreciation...

Greg White:           Right.

Ron Havner:           Okay. And so by having a stepped up tax basis in the
                      Shurgard assets that will allow a significantly greater,
                      we believe significantly greater cash flow retention than
                      if there's not a step up in the tax basis which will
                      enhance the financial flexibility of the combined
                      enterprise going forward, and its growth ability.

Greg White:           So it doesn't have anything to do necessarily with the tax
                      implications for Shurgard unit holders if you were to sell
                      some of those assets.

Ron Havner:           I don't think so Greg. But I don't know the attributes for
                      the Shurgard unit holders.

Greg White:           Okay. All right, thanks.

Operator:             Your next question comes from Edward Wu with Reservoir 
                      Capital.

Edward Wu:            Good morning gentlemen.  What are the regulatory hurdles 
                      that would have to be met before this merger could close?

Ron Havner:           You know, I think if Shurgard's board and management were
                      to sit down and talk to us we've got a good shot of
                      closing this transaction by the end of the year. And
                      there's no unusual regulatory obstacles that we know of at
                      this time.



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Edward Wu:            But you would need to file Hart-Scott-Rodino.

Ron Havner:           Possibly. Again, you know, there's nothing unusual here in
                      this proposed transaction that we're aware of that would
                      have any unusual regulatory obstacles. And you know, if we
                      can sit down at the table and start a conversation with
                      the Shurgard management team sooner rather than later we
                      have a shot at closing by the end of the year.

Edward Wu:            Thank you.

Operator:             Your next question comes from Drew Figdor with Tiedemann.

Drew Figdor:          Yes. I just wonder if you could clarify, they've already
                      I guess rejected twice. Once in the letter and then once
                      again already today fairly clearly saying that they're not
                      interested. And you've missed, I guess, the annual
                      meeting. So what options are available for you to pursue
                      this? And if management decides not to sit down and talk
                      with you, is that the end of your interest?

Ron Havner:           You know, first, I haven't read their press release so I'm
                      not familiar with what it says. We're pretty well advised
                      here and pretty well aware of the options that are
                      available to us. Our sincere hope, however, is that
                      Shurgard board and management will sit down and talk with
                      us about putting these two companies together.

                      We're also hopeful and that's one of the reasons for this
                      call is that the Shurgard shareholders will encourage both
                      the board and the management to do just that.

                      As you probably know, Shurgard recently declassified their
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Drew Figdor:          Right.  Right.  For next year, I guess.

                      And if they refuse to sit down with you, are you still
                      committed to this process?

Ron Havner:           You know, we're well advised and I think we're pretty 
                      familiar with all of our options.

Operator:             Your next question comes from Patrick Stotesbery, a 
                      private investor.

Patrick Stotesbery:   My question is the effect on the income stream for
                      Shurgard shareholders by doing a taxable transaction and
                      leaving them with a tax liability and no cash to pay.

Ron Havner:           And your question is?

Patrick Stotesbery:   What's your thinking on that?

Ron Havner:           Well, one of the - I don't know whether you heard one of
                      the earlier questions about the rationale for making the
                      transaction taxable. It is so that there's a step up in
                      the tax basis of the assets and so that the enterprise
                      going forward has greater ability to retain cash flow.

                      I believe if the - and this is not tax advice. If the
                      transaction would be subject probably to long-term capital
                      gains, which are probably at their historical low.

Patrick Stotesbery:   Thank you.

Operator:             Your next question comes from Lou Taylor with Deutsche 
                      Bank.



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Lou Taylor:           Yes.  Thank you.

                      Just you guys have been down this road before, what gives
                      you optimism that the outcome here will be different than
                      prior discussions?

Ron Havner:           Well, the reasons for this transaction, this merger in
                      particular at this time, as we've outlined, I think, are
                      extremely compelling. We're counting on the Shurgard
                      shareholders to make their voice known to both the board
                      of directors and senior management of Shurgard but as we
                      touched on there's a number of reasons why this
                      transaction makes sense for both sets of shareholders.

                      You know, and we have done one of these before. I think
                      back in 1999. We merged Public Storage merged with Storage
                      Trust. So we've done these kinds of transactions before.

Operator:             Your next question comes from Greg White with Morgan 
                      Stanley.

Greg White:           Ron, can you - you sort of touched on it. Can you
                      give us a little bit of history here as to how many times
                      you might have approached them in the past and what
                      responses you've had?

Ron Havner:           Well we've had I think Chuck Barbo and Dave Grant have
                      known over the years that this is a transaction that we
                      here at Public Storage thinks makes sense. We really
                      formally approached them here in July and outlined a very
                      specific proposal, which was a part of our letter that is
                      in the 8-K.

Operator:             Your next question comes from Michael Knott with Green 
                      Street Advisors.



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Michael Knott:        Yeah. Just curious if you can comment a little bit on
                      your interest in Europe specifically with regards to the
                      offer for Shurgard and then just generally more interest
                      in just globally in general?

Ron Havner:           Well, with respect to Europe, Michael, I think, as you
                      know, Shurgard has about 130 properties over in Europe.
                      And while Europe is potentially a great opportunity,
                      potentially it would represent about 6 or 7% of the
                      combined portfolio. And our gut here is it would need to
                      really be expanded significantly to become efficient. And
                      the combined entities capital structure allows for that.

                      In the immediate future, I think Europe would benefit from
                      our promotion and media programs. The last I looked the
                      mature properties over there were about 70% occupied. So I
                      think our media promotional programs as well as our, you
                      know, our managerial techniques for, you know, getting
                      customers into space would benefit Europe quite
                      measurably.

                      In addition, we'd probably seek to kind of rationalize the
                      cost structure over there and make it a little more
                      efficient.

Michael Knott:        Thank you.

Operator:             Your next question comes from Brian Jones with Neuberger 
                      Berman.

Brian Jones:          My question is basically been asked and answered so thank 
                      you.

Ron Havner:           Okay.  Thanks.

Operator:             Your next question comes from Edward Wu with Reservoir 
                      Capital.



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Edward Wu:            Yeah. Gentlemen, just a follow up on clarification. You
                      had mentioned the Storage Trust transaction. I think I
                      missed the context. Were you specifying that because that
                      was also an unsolicited proposal or was that a friendly
                      merger at the time?

Ron Havner:           It was initially an unsolicited proposal that subsequently
                      turned friendly.

Edward Wu:            Okay.  Thank you.

Operator:             Your next question comes from Eric Rothman with Wachovia 
                      Securities.

Eric Rothman:         Yeah.  I guess we would be remiss if we ignored your 
                      second quarter results.

Ron Havner:           Great.

Eric Rothman:         With respect to the margin expansion, how much of that
                      is permanent do we expect to see going forward? There
                      were, it looked to me as though there were maybe a number
                      of things that could have been timing related with respect
                      to repairs and maintenance. As well as a few other things
                      that may be more permanent, in particular the labor saving
                      hours and the lower increase in payroll than we might have
                      otherwise expected. What should we look for, for margins?

John Reyes:           Well, Eric, this is John. I can give Ron a break here. I
                      think we're shooting to expand our margins and continue to
                      have the positive trends that we've experienced. But with
                      that said, the 1% increase in expenses that we had in the
                      quarter, although it's very good for us, I think overall
                      what we are looking for, for the next probably two
                      quarters out is we probably will not experience a 1%
                      growth. The expense growth will probably be a little
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                      And part of that is, is that what you're seeing here is
                      the results of some of the initiatives that John mentioned
                      as well as others that started in the latter half of 2004.
                      So the comps between 2005 and the first half of 2004 have
                      been a little easier to come by. But when we start moving
                      into the latter half of 2005, comparing up to 2004 is
                      going to get a little tougher. So that I expect that our
                      expense growth is going to trend up off of the 1%.

                      So I think the margins - the gross margins will probably
                      come under a little bit of pressure as we move forward but
                      you know, we think that we can continue to try to at least
                      stabilize them at this level and perhaps grow them a
                      little bit.

Eric Rothman:         With  respect  -  specific  respect  to  the  phone
                      reservation  system,  I know that  you'd  mentioned  that
                      last quarter  that most of the  savings  that  we've seen 
                      there was going to be in the first and second quarter. Are
                      we completely done with that on a similar vein to the 
                      margin expansion issue or is there a little bit more of 
                      that to do.

John Reyes:           That is part of it. In fact, that's one of the big
                      pieces. But I think, again, as we go forward, the
                      reduction in phone center costs, the percentage reduction
                      is going to start slowing down. And you can already start
                      seeing that. With the first quarter the reduction was much
                      bigger than the second quarter and again, as we move on
                      through the year, the reduction - the year over year
                      reduction will start diminishing.

Eric Rothman:         Right. And then just one last if I may. Insurance costs.
                      Most folks are seeing those rise. Yours were down. Is 
                      there anything in particular driving that?


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John Reyes:           Nothing special.  Just for us, it's just a softer 
                      insurance market.  So we've been benefiting from that. 
                      But nothing really with respect to property insurance 
                      that's there, you know, causing that.

Eric Rothman:         Right.  Thank you very much.

John Reyes:           You're welcome.

Operator:             Your next question comes from Michael Mueller with JP 
                      Morgan Securities.

Michael Mueller:      Hi. Two things also on the quarter. First, it looks like 
                      the tenant  reinsurance  costs were half of what they've
                      been in prior  quarters.  And I just want to confirm when
                      you were talking about a 6.1% yield, was that I think 858
                      million, is that  referring  to the  unstabilized  pool of
                      development properties?

John Reyes:           Yes. To the answer to your second question, yes. That 6.1
                      and the costs relate to the acquisitions and development 
                      properties. So yes, they're the unstabilized piece of our
                      portfolio.

Michael Mueller:      And last quarter that was 500 million, right?  And the 
                      yield was also 6%.  So...

John Reyes:           Right.  I mean part of it is because although we've been 
                      experiencing growth in some of the older assets, in
                      some of the newer assets that we've been acquiring, are 
                      basically - a lot of them are still fill up type
                      properties.

Michael Mueller:      Okay.  Okay.

                      And then what about the tenant insurance?


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John Reyes:           The tenant insurance, one of the things that happened to 
                      us last year we became very inefficient in how we were
                      processing our tenant claims.  We changed our processing
                      agent and got a lot of benefit out of that.

                      The other big component that happened during this quarter
                      was something that actually started last year with respect
                      to the hurricanes. If you recall when the hurricanes came
                      through in Florida, in the month of September we accrued
                      about a million and a half of liabilities for expected
                      costs expected to be experienced with respect to tenant
                      claims.

                      To date, we've only paid about a half a million dollars of
                      those claims and there's some still in the queue. So one
                      of the things that we needed to redo is reduce the
                      original accrual of a million and a half and we reduced it
                      by about a half a million dollars, which resulted in a
                      reduction of the expense for the quarter.

Michael Mueller:      Okay.  And that will recur?

John Reyes:           Well, possibly not because we still have a few
                      claims to pay still. There's still another half million on
                      the books to go. If none of that materializes then yes
                      there will be about a half a million dollar reversal but I
                      don't expect that to happen.

Michael Mueller:      Okay.  Thanks.

Operator:             Your next question comes from Rob Davis with PSAM.

Rob Davis:            Hi.  Good afternoon.  Good morning.


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                      Just had a question regarding synergies. You mentioned
                      that once synergies exceed $20 million, which kind of
                      leads me to infer that you're looking for something better
                      than that. Looking at Shurgard's SG&A from last year, I
                      think it was about $32 million. It would seem to imply
                      that synergies would probably eat up the vast portion of
                      G&A and probably a large portion of that coming from the
                      U.S.

                      I guess more qualitatively where should we kind of look to
                      see where there would be synergies? Is it mostly SG&A? Is
                      there any other places where you think you can achieve
                      savings?

Ron Havner:           Well, let me try to step through some of them. You've got 
                      an enterprise with revenues of about a billion five. So 
                      20 million of revenue synergies or benefits by injecting 
                      media and promotional programs into the program would be a
                      positive. That, you know, that's less than 2% of revenues.

                      On the expense side, as you touched on, you're right. I
                      think the combined enterprise would have SG&A of 50 to 60
                      million and we would look to take that down on a combined
                      basis. Shurgard operates, I think, with about 150, almost
                      200% of the G&A that we operate here with Public Storage.
                      So there's certainly an opportunity.

                      At the operating or unit level, you've got things like
                      yellow pages where Shurgard say has a double truck ad in
                      Seattle with their 40 properties. If we have a double
                      truck ad, which maybe cost $100,000 for our 40 properties
                      in Seattle, on a combined basis you put those together and
                      you've got 80 properties in one double truck ad.

                      You've got duplication of supervisory personnel. Shurgard
                      has a call center. We have a call center. Those could be
                      combined as well as, you know, the 


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                      property insurance, supervisory personnel. So there's a 
                      whole variety of things that can be combined at the 
                      operating level.

                      This won't happen on day one but it will take time to
                      realize that there are definite cost synergies to be
                      realized.

Rob Davis:            As you mentioned, just to make sure I understand from the
                      first thing you said, there probably are some revenue 
                      benefits from I guess better media and promotional
                      activities?

Ron Havner:           Yeah. I believe so. The Shurgard system does not utilize 
                      television that I know of. And as I've touched on, when we
                      go on TV in Seattle, whether we're covering 20 or
                      40 properties in Seattle, it costs the same. But also if
                      you look at the occupancy levels between the two
                      portfolios, it's somewhere - I don't know what the
                      Shurgard's June 30th results are but the last I looked, it
                      was somewhere between 500 and 700 basis points. So there's
                      an opportunity to drive the utilization rate on those
                      assets higher.

Rob Davis:            Uh-huh. In terms of the portfolio, are there, you
                      know, I've done a little tweaking here and there, any
                      plans to change what they have in their asset base, get
                      rid of things you think might be underperforming and beef
                      up in certain areas?

Ron Havner:           I couldn't comment on that. We - you know, we haven't been
                      through, in terms of a strategy or in terms of what to 
                      combine. Historically, Public Storage is not a seller of 
                      assets and we think the portfolios overlay each other and 
                      are complementary to one another.

Rob Davis:            Okay.  Thanks very much for your answers.


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Ron Havner:           Uh-huh.

Operator:             Your next question comes from Steve Sakwa with Merrill 
                      Lynch.

Steve Sakwa:          Good afternoon. Ron, I guess you sort of touched on
                      the question I was going to ask about kind of the revenue
                      and Shurgard's occupancy is substantially lower than
                      yours.

                      I mean is there anything sort of structural about the
                      assets or locations that would lead you to believe that
                      you wouldn't get those assets closer to yours and, you
                      know, as a, I guess, an adjunct to that, and they also it
                      looks like have substantially or at least 10% higher rents
                      than you do and I'm wondering if there's a trade-off
                      between sort of them taking higher rents and lower
                      occupancy and whether you think you can hold that rate or
                      whether some of that would come out?

                      And then also, I just wanted to talk about conversion and
                      assuming that you would ultimately switch these over to
                      the Public Storage name, you know, what costs are involved
                      in doing that?

Ron Havner:           Steve, there's a lot of questions there, buddy.

Steve Sakwa:          Right.

Ron Havner:           Let me try to touch on kind of the occupancies and rates.
                      As you said, the occupancy spread between the two
                      portfolios is quite substantial. We don't - the last I
                      looked, Shurgard doesn't break out their occupancy by
                      market as we do in our 10-Q and 10-K so it's a little hard
                      to do apples to apples what they're doing in Seattle
                      versus what we're doing in Seattle or Dallas and Dallas.
                      But overall, the portfolio, you can see the widespread in
                      occupancy.



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                      In terms of rental rates, we don't disclose our street
                      rates or our posted rates either in the Q or in the press
                      release. So I'm not sure how you're concluding that our
                      rates are higher or lower than their rates. So I'll leave
                      that as it is.

                      In terms of REVPAR growth, which is a mixture of volume,
                      rates, and promotional discounts which at the end of the
                      day is really how much cash is coming in the door, I think
                      our numbers have been pretty good, they're certainly very
                      good here in the second quarter and if not number one in
                      the industry are pretty close to number one in the
                      industry in terms of their REVPAF growth that we're
                      achieving.

Steve Sakwa:          Well, Ron, I don't know if you can still hear me but
                      you've disclosed that you are sort of REVPAF or, you know,
                      the revenue per occupied foot is 1,051 on your same-store.
                      And if I'm reading their results correctly, from the first
                      quarter, it looked like their REVPAF or - well, I guess
                      their annualized rent is 1,181. So...
                      
Ron Havner:           Well, you've got two different things there, Steve, in
                      terms of the last time I looked at their press release.
                      Their disclosing as we've disclosed what the in-place
                      rents are which are the leases in place. REVPAF is a
                      combination of what is the revenue for the period, which
                      is leases in place net of promotional discounts as well as
                      per available foot. So if you're high rents low occupancy,
                      those counter-balance each other.                        

Steve Sakwa:          Okay, thanks.

Operator:             Your next question comes from Rick Murray with Raymond 
                      James.



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Rick Murray:          Hi. Good morning, guys. I've also got Paul Puryerar here
                      with me; I think he has a question as well. I was curious
                      about your outlook for Europe and what kind of potential
                      returns you're targeting there and kind of how they stack
                      up relative to what you're seeing in the States today?

Paul Puryerar:        You know, there's certainly potential opportunity in
                      Europe. And in terms of macro economic outlook of Europe
                      or what is the grand potential of Europe, it's a little
                      hard to say. You know, earlier, I touched on the fact that
                      Shurgard has 130 properties scattered throughout seven
                      European nations. But occupancies have not been, I don't
                      think what they've anticipated, and it's certainly not
                      what we would anticipate. Again, I think that portfolio
                      could benefit from our promotional and media programs.

                      There's certainly opportunity there. There's a number of
                      other players besides Shurgard that have gotten into
                      Europe in the last four or five years. So if the - an
                      evolving product type in Europe, customer awareness is
                      still very low. And I believe it will take a significant
                      amount of expansion and media programs to drive customer
                      awareness and utilization of the assets.

Rick Murray:          Okay, thanks.

Paul Puryerar:        Yeah. Ron, if you could - we're just taking down notes
                      here trying to put together what your savings are in G&A
                      and operating costs. Could you just summarize that for us
                      and sort of help us get to some order of magnitude of
                      numbers here?

Ron Havner:           I don't - Paul, I don't remember quantifying it for you by
                      line item. As I - an earlier gentleman asked about kind of
                      the opportunities both at the operating level as well as
                      the G&A level. You can look at the two companies'
                      respective G&A and kind of draw your own conclusions in
                      terms of what the 



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                      ongoing run rate is. But certainly, even a casual observer
                      would see a lot of upside potential in the G&A line.

                      As I touched on the yellow pages, the operating costs, the
                      systems costs, the call centers, those are not delineated
                      by Shurgard in their release of public financial
                      information so it's a little hard to give you direction in
                      terms of what to look at, what they're spending versus
                      what we're spending. But you can look at what we're
                      spending and kind of draw your own conclusions and
                      extrapolate there, I think.

Paul Puryerar:        Yeah.  Okay, thanks.

Operator:             Your next question comes from William Acheson with Merrill
                      Lynch.

William Acheson:      Thank you. Traditionally, guys, you guys always say that,
                      you know, you don't focus on cap grades or like that. But
                      I was wondering that since this is essentially a very
                      large acquisition, at the pricing inferred here, $53, do
                      you think that's still below replacement cost?
                  
Ron Havner:           No, Bill.

William Acheson:      Okay.  How much due diligence were you actually able to do
                      here I mean given Shurgard's disclosure?
                      
Ron Havner:           Just public information.

William Acheson:      Okay.  Thank you.

Operator:             Your next question comes from Eric Rothman with Wachovia 
                      Securities.



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Eric Rothman:         Yeah. With respect to occupancy being over 90%, are you at
                      the point where you're seeing pricing power return or at
                      least discounts completely ebbing and how much pricing
                      power do you expect to have over the next...?        

John Reyes:           We're seeing both that. We're seeing - and it varies
                      property by property within markets where we've been able
                      to raise rate, not only to existing tenants and as well as
                      to new tenants and then at the same time, we've been
                      reducing promotional discounts at some properties. It just
                      really depends on - and it's done on a
                      property-by-property basis.

                      So we've seen a lot of properties with - what we do have a
                      lot of pricing power and then, of course, there's some
                      properties where pricing is still very, very sluggish at
                      this time.

Eric Rothman:         Do you have any guess as to how much you could drive rates
                      with the combined company?

John Reyes:           It's tough to say. I mean we don't know enough about their
                      properties. As Ron said, most of the due diligence that we
                      did was through public stuff. We kind of have a feeling by
                      the markets in which they operate and how our properties
                      do in those markets but we haven't quantified anything at
                      this point in time.

Ron Havner:           We do have a sense that there are both cost synergies and
                      revenue synergies to be gained in the combined
                      organization. We've touched on Europe. We believe - if you
                      look at the GAAP in occupancies here in the U.S., their
                      portfolio would benefit from our promotional and media
                      programs as well in addition to the cost synergies that
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Eric Rothman:         Great.  Thank you.

Operator:             Your last question comes from Michael Mueller with JP 
                      Morgan Securities.

Michael Mueller:      Thanks. I was wondering, can you tell us what the assumed
                      occupancy was and your pro forma? And then also, I think
                      Steve asked a question earlier about the cost to reflag
                      property and I was just wondering if you could comment on
                      that?                      

Ron Havner:           The pro forma, Mike, I referred to in my call - or first
                      call estimates for both Public Storage and Shurgard. Okay?
                      But we didn't refer to our own separate pro formas. I used
                      the first call estimates that are widely published by guys
                      like you.
                      
Michael Mueller:      Okay.

Ron Havner:           With respect to the cost to reflagging properties, that
                      can - depending on the store layout, the signage, and all
                      that, that can be modest to up to, you know, $75,000 to
                      $100,000, it varies across the board in terms of the
                      physical condition of the product, the store layout, and
                      all those things.                              

Michael Mueller:      Okay, and you wouldn't do Europe, just the U.S.?

Ron Havner:           Do what in Europe?

Michael Mueller:      Reflag?

Ron Havner:           Haven't decided yet.

Michael Mueller:      Okay.  Thanks.



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Ron Havner:           Okay, operator.  Thank you all for your participation in 
                      our conference call.

Operator:             Thank you.  This concludes today's conference call.  You 
                      may now disconnect.


                                       END

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